Linear scans using Silverfast and Plustek 8100 scanner

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  1. Cerita

    Cerita FF Regular

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    I have spent today scanning linear raw files using the above and I have to say I am very pleased with how much detail is scanned. Using Colorperfect to give the right film type colours seems to be working well. Here is a neg and then a positive with Colorperfect's portra 160 profile, straight out of the scanner, no edits. I am impressed with how much detail it resolves. Sorry could not load the actual sized tiff files.

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  2. Cerita

    Cerita FF Regular

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    Jul 24, 2017
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    Even though there are no BW profiles in Colorperfect, it uses a default BW setting that is way better than just inverting the negative scan in LR. Here is an example of Kentmere 400.

    I think (for now) I have found my workflow for 35mm film. It has taken me a long time to get to this point, so many opinions out there, and very different ones, enough to drive one a bit batty LOL!

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  3. José

    José FF Regular Subscribing Member

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    I have a similar (or the same model, don’t know) scanner are results are pretty good. It is just the time it takes that (plus nowadays shooting more 120) that made me put it up for sale.
     
  4. Cerita

    Cerita FF Regular

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    It's a fairly good scanner, I would say better than the lab. I have a Espon V600 for 120 film but it's not that great, I would prefer a dedicated 120 scanner like the Plustek 120 but it's very expensive! The German made Crystal Reflecta (I think that's the name) looks good too, but it's even more expensive than the Plustek.
     
  5. Twilli53

    Twilli53 FF Regular

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    Timothy A Williams
    I have gotten as far as buying the chemicals to develop my film, but this scanner thing has me baffled at the moment. Don't know what I want or even what I would need to get the job done well. Haven't put too much effort into it I confess. I've been sending everything to the Darkroom. Developing the film doesn't worry me, but adding another piece into my editing work flow does. It's expensive sending my film off but the Darkroom does a really good job so I pay it for the time being.
     
  6. bobitybob

    bobitybob FF Regular

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    Robert Cartwright
    Have you taken a look on e-bay there are always plenty on there and you may pick up a bargain.

    I have a couple of scanners, A Kodak/Pakon 135 which I use for 135 and was fortunate enough to get before the prices went crazy and an Epson V550 for 120. The Pakon is a bit of a dinosaur. but works great, and does a whole roll of 36 in about 5 minutes. I find the Epson software very clunky but adequate and the results are as good as I've had from some labs. Both have the ability to scan strips of film rather than one frame at a time like all but the newest Plustek models which means you don't have to sit next to them feeding in the film for each scan. It's just a little more user friendly. If you are just scanning to upload to the internet and probably for printing up A3 then IMO an Epson (or similar spec Canon) or even the new Kodak scanner would be more than adequate and a good way to get into the whole developing, scanning workflow process.
     
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  7. Twilli53

    Twilli53 FF Regular

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    Timothy A Williams
    Thanks Bob. I guess I'm getting lazy in my older years Lol, I just don't want to have to learn another complicated piece of software, But that being said I'm going to be forced into it. I'm shooting more film now than Digital ( because I enjoy the experience more ) and it's 20 bucks US a roll to get it developed and digitized. I want something like you described that I can get on with and get my photos in my Library. The Pakon would be great but that's a retirement bonus check away. I'll dive in and learn on a flatbed or the Plustek. I didn't enjoy learning Photoshop, but now that I know my way around I wouldn't be without it. I have looked at the Plustek 8100 and feel pretty good with learning on it. and it's with in budget. The Pakons I saw were 1000-1250 US.
     
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  8. bobitybob

    bobitybob FF Regular

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  9. Twilli53

    Twilli53 FF Regular

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    Timothy A Williams
    Thanks Bob. That cleared up more than a few things. I'm going to have to learn more. I'm still foggy on how large I can print some of the files I will get. Will dig deeper into this. I don't mind saving up to get the one that will work for what I want.
     
  10. bobitybob

    bobitybob FF Regular

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    Robert Cartwright
    Final alternative you may wish to consider is to use your digital camera, macro lens (or lens and extension tube) a light box and a suitable camera stand (or tripod) and take a digital image. These can then be converted to positives in Photoshop etc. There's lots of debate and how to's about this on the internet if you search, and Nikon now even offer this as a built in option on their newest camera along with an adapter to hold the film!

    Hope that's helpful.
     
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